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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Reilly is one of the biggest shills in the media.  His career is entirely dependent on parroting the agendas of his benefact errr.... I mean sources...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Reilly is one of the biggest shills in the media.  His career is entirely dependent on parroting the agendas of his benefact errr&#8230;. I mean sources&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Francine McKenna</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Francine McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your interest.  You can call me Jane, if it inspires you.  I publish all comments, unless you call me an &quot;ignorant slut.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your interest.  You can call me Jane, if it inspires you.  I publish all comments, unless you call me an &#8220;ignorant slut.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, this is YOUR blog, your agenda.  I&#039;m just part of the peanut gallery, too lazy to do my own blog.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyhow, I intend to express my own views, which are based on 24 years of experience.  It will be clear that this will become &quot;Point/Counter-point&quot;.  But I promise not to call you &quot;Jane&quot; (reference to the old Saturday Night Live skits, where they did a parody of the 60 Minutes show)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lastly, feel free to use anything I post in anyway you see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, this is YOUR blog, your agenda.  I&#8217;m just part of the peanut gallery, too lazy to do my own blog.  </p>
<p>Anyhow, I intend to express my own views, which are based on 24 years of experience.  It will be clear that this will become &#8220;Point/Counter-point&#8221;.  But I promise not to call you &#8220;Jane&#8221; (reference to the old Saturday Night Live skits, where they did a parody of the 60 Minutes show)</p>
<p>Lastly, feel free to use anything I post in anyway you see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Francine McKenna</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Francine McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I have made money investing in Latin America. The advantage is not due to their lack of transparency but the fact that these markets are typically undervalued by prejudiced &quot;1st world&quot; investors.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With regard to my comment about the lack of value in the auditor&#039;s opinion, my opinion is shared by many others and is being heard more and more these days outside of the self-serving circles of the firms and the regulators who serve them. See the links in the post for more critics. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Immature? Oh, to have the luxury of immaturity and naivete. Unfortunatly I am burdened by age and broad, no pun intended, experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I have made money investing in Latin America. The advantage is not due to their lack of transparency but the fact that these markets are typically undervalued by prejudiced &#8220;1st world&#8221; investors.</p>
<p>With regard to my comment about the lack of value in the auditor&#8217;s opinion, my opinion is shared by many others and is being heard more and more these days outside of the self-serving circles of the firms and the regulators who serve them. See the links in the post for more critics. </p>
<p>Immature? Oh, to have the luxury of immaturity and naivete. Unfortunatly I am burdened by age and broad, no pun intended, experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Francine McKenna</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>Francine McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m tickled bright pink... Being amusing and entertaining is part of my goal, since the topic is pretty dry for other than the diehards.  In fact, my agent says I have to be even more provocative to appeal to a general business audience rather than the limited one that he thinks constitutes auditors and the people that sue them.  Wait until you see the book title!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Can I use your comment as a book jacket blurb?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I write a blog (not a column in a global media owned magazine or newspaper,) and I work independently, so I can be biased.  It&#039;s my bias, my opinions, my twenty-plus years of experience, non-filtered by anyone else&#039;s strategy or agenda.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You can take it or leave it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m tickled bright pink&#8230; Being amusing and entertaining is part of my goal, since the topic is pretty dry for other than the diehards.  In fact, my agent says I have to be even more provocative to appeal to a general business audience rather than the limited one that he thinks constitutes auditors and the people that sue them.  Wait until you see the book title!</p>
<p>Can I use your comment as a book jacket blurb?</p>
<p>I write a blog (not a column in a global media owned magazine or newspaper,) and I work independently, so I can be biased.  It&#8217;s my bias, my opinions, my twenty-plus years of experience, non-filtered by anyone else&#8217;s strategy or agenda.</p>
<p>You can take it or leave it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amused and entertained by your blog.  So it is interesting to see a wholly different view than my own.  It would just seem to me that you are hiding behind the &quot;awareness&quot; card and not presenting a balanced view or suggesting any alternatives other than to bash the profession, and by association, the good men and women that work for the auditing firms.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For example, the AIG matter, a balanced view would have included that a big big part of the issue was the fabricated fair values for financial instruments (i.e., CDOs, sub-prime MBS, and other complex or structured instruments) that were sourced from broker quotes or a pricing service that used a proprietary model.  Companies and auditors likely relied upon those quotes to support valuations contained in the financial statements.  It will turn out that many of these models are flawed or insufficent, or that the brokers had a vested interest in the values.  Should management and the auditors done more?  Probably.  But lets also include blame for the corrupt or inadequate system that still exists today to determine fair value for complex, structured or illiquid investments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amused and entertained by your blog.  So it is interesting to see a wholly different view than my own.  It would just seem to me that you are hiding behind the &#8220;awareness&#8221; card and not presenting a balanced view or suggesting any alternatives other than to bash the profession, and by association, the good men and women that work for the auditing firms.</p>
<p>For example, the AIG matter, a balanced view would have included that a big big part of the issue was the fabricated fair values for financial instruments (i.e., CDOs, sub-prime MBS, and other complex or structured instruments) that were sourced from broker quotes or a pricing service that used a proprietary model.  Companies and auditors likely relied upon those quotes to support valuations contained in the financial statements.  It will turn out that many of these models are flawed or insufficent, or that the brokers had a vested interest in the values.  Should management and the auditors done more?  Probably.  But lets also include blame for the corrupt or inadequate system that still exists today to determine fair value for complex, structured or illiquid investments.</p>
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		<title>By: Francine McKenna</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>Francine McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blog is about raising awareness of the issues and giving exposure to others who are in a position to influence the solutions.  I&#039;m also highlighting where those who have a responsibility to monitor and regulate are not serving investors and the public in general very well.  Based on the huge audience I&#039;ve built and the  positive feedback I&#039;ve received, u know people are very interested in the  information I&#039;ve provided. I&#039;m writing a book which will have my humble opinion of what I think should be done.  Unfortunately for investors,  they will probably still be looking for answers and someone to act by the time the book is published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blog is about raising awareness of the issues and giving exposure to others who are in a position to influence the solutions.  I&#8217;m also highlighting where those who have a responsibility to monitor and regulate are not serving investors and the public in general very well.  Based on the huge audience I&#8217;ve built and the  positive feedback I&#8217;ve received, u know people are very interested in the  information I&#8217;ve provided. I&#8217;m writing a book which will have my humble opinion of what I think should be done.  Unfortunately for investors,  they will probably still be looking for answers and someone to act by the time the book is published.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You elected to respond to the easy comments.  The real point is what are you proposing as an alternative?  It is easy, and frankly boring, to continue to wail away at the auditing profession.  Are they perfect? No.  Is any organziation? No.  Should they be perfect?  The answer you, and others seem to have is &quot;Yes&quot;, but please don&#039;t charge us too much, you greedy auditors.  So here is the question, again:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you have a better alternative, then say what that might be. Would you want the government to take over that role? Would you want auditors to examine every transaction? What do you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You elected to respond to the easy comments.  The real point is what are you proposing as an alternative?  It is easy, and frankly boring, to continue to wail away at the auditing profession.  Are they perfect? No.  Is any organziation? No.  Should they be perfect?  The answer you, and others seem to have is &#8220;Yes&#8221;, but please don&#8217;t charge us too much, you greedy auditors.  So here is the question, again:</p>
<p>If you have a better alternative, then say what that might be. Would you want the government to take over that role? Would you want auditors to examine every transaction? What do you want?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last point you made concerning the audit opinion was immature on your part.  No one would suggest the system is perfect, but worthless?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you have a better alternative, then say what that might be.  Would you want the government to take over that role?  Would you want auditors to examine every transaction?  What do you want? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The real reason restatements will decline is because the hysteria to restate for things that don&#039;t matter is waning fast.  No one has really gotten any smarter or is better.  Even the SEC has latched onto the concept of requiring restatements only when there would be reasonable expectation that an investor would care.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In any event, you, just like so many politicians, so easily declare something broken and then propose a solution.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suggest that you invest in third-world markets where perhaps the lack of transparency and oversight would make sense to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last point you made concerning the audit opinion was immature on your part.  No one would suggest the system is perfect, but worthless?  </p>
<p>If you have a better alternative, then say what that might be.  Would you want the government to take over that role?  Would you want auditors to examine every transaction?  What do you want? </p>
<p>The real reason restatements will decline is because the hysteria to restate for things that don&#8217;t matter is waning fast.  No one has really gotten any smarter or is better.  Even the SEC has latched onto the concept of requiring restatements only when there would be reasonable expectation that an investor would care.   </p>
<p>In any event, you, just like so many politicians, so easily declare something broken and then propose a solution.  </p>
<p>I suggest that you invest in third-world markets where perhaps the lack of transparency and oversight would make sense to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Accountant</title>
		<link>http://retheauditors.com/2008/02/15/wsj-swallows-big-4-public-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Accountant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francine:&lt;br/&gt;You beat me to this post.  I see it the same way you do.  I will provide a reference to your comment at my website.&lt;br/&gt;I call the WSJ&#039;s piece a &quot;fluffball&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francine:<br />You beat me to this post.  I see it the same way you do.  I will provide a reference to your comment at my website.<br />I call the WSJ&#8217;s piece a &#8220;fluffball&#8221;.</p>
<p>George</p>
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